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The safety strap on my Bell Bullet has started the fray on the end just before the popper. They no longer have stock of my lid so it’s either trade it in for a cash refund or keep it and have it repaired privately... which is easy enough and preferable as I really do love it.

None the less I found myself in the local bike store looking over some additional lid options. I really would like something with an internal sun visor as swapping visors is a pain and not really practical on the Bullit.

I spotted the AGV Sport Modular in all of it’s carbon fibre glory. It took me a moment to realise that it’s a modular lid, so well hidden is the fact and whilst I’ve never considered one in the past... having tried it on I have to say I was impressed with how incredibly light it is at just 1200 grams. My Bell Bullitt Carbon in no heavyweight at around 1300 grams but the difference is detectable. And last but not least it has the all important integrated sun visor I’m looking for.

So there I am practically sold on walking out the door with it but then I take stock of two negatives... firstly the price, @ £600 it’s far from cheap. But it wasn’t a deal breaker so I tried it on again to be absolutely sure and that’s when my second concern was born. The chin guard is very close to my own chin... I’d say around 1/4 of an inch clearance. So when I rolled my chin forwards a little it made positive contact with the chin guard.

Whilst I’m no expert I assume this isn’t good in the event of an off?!

So at this time I’m reviewing sizing and the different padding options to see if its possible to create some extra clearance. I tried on a large in store but looking at the sizing chart I’m right on the cusp of an extra large so figure with some slightly thicker padding it might work.

Edit... I forgot to mention a 3rd negative. The colour of the AGV logo... why the h€ll did they not ghost it?! A small niggle but for me it is a shame!

Anyways here’s the lid for this interested... I’ll let you know how this one pans out!

https://www.agv.co.uk/agv-sport-modular-mono-matt-carbon-black.html
 

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I liked this and ordered it but couldn’t deal with the chinstrap on my Adam’s apple. It’s a problem they have. The Shoei Neotec 2 is the best sportsmodular I’ve tried on.
 

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I liked this and ordered it but couldn’t deal with the chinstrap on my Adam’s apple. It’s a problem they have. The Shoei Neotec 2 is the best sportsmodular I’ve tried on.
Hmm... I’ll have to try it on again with the strap done up. Don’t want to be caught out by that!

I have tried on the extra large version of the lid now and the clearance issue for my chin is solved. It feels a little more comfortable also but it feel too lose in th cheek pad area. My local dealership have said they will order in the larger cheek pads for me to try so that’s where I’m at so far. £65 is a bit rich for the pads though!
 

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The AGV looks pretty cool.

I have a Schuberth flip-up helmet . . . but I don't use it very often. I do like the drop down sun visor.

For sizing I prefer Aria helmets. The oval/long oval thing really makes a difference.
 

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The Neotec 2 is the only helmet I have EVER had that didn't require "wearing in". Excellent comfort out of the box, and a good snug fit
I tried the Neotec 2 on today and have to say that it felt fantastic, I also really like the shape and look of it in black. Only issue that I can’t get past... why on earth did they decide to place the button to open the front in plain sight and to paint it red?! It looks like a dogs tonge hanging out... such a shame!

Still I’ve not completely ruled it out as I liked it in every other way. I wonder if it could at least be colour coded?!
 

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The Schuberth C3 has a similar (but slightly different) location and colour
 

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For all of the incredibly expensive helmets I have bought, tried on etc....I find my favorite is one that wasn’t expensive at all and fits the Bobber great. The Biltwell Gringo and Gringo S. That helmet fits my head and my bike perfectly. My Arai , Shoei and Shuberth get used less and less.
 

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Nice choice Mike.
Helmets are an expensive (but very worthy) investment. You should definitely try as many as you can before you buy.
I rate my Schuberth C4 highly, though it is heavier than the carbon AGV you’re looking at. The built in comms (extra) on the C4 are GREAT and made my Sena - so perform flawlessly.

Let us know what you choose...
 

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For all of the incredibly expensive helmets I have bought, tried on etc....I find my favorite is one that wasn’t expensive at all and fits the Bobber great. The Biltwell Gringo and Gringo S. That helmet fits my head and my bike perfectly. My Arai , Shoei and Shuberth get used less and less.
I wear a large Arai Signet X. Would that translate to a large Bitwell? I really like the look of the Gringo or the Gringo S.
 

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For all of the incredibly expensive helmets I have bought, tried on etc....I find my favorite is one that wasn’t expensive at all and fits the Bobber great. The Biltwell Gringo and Gringo S. That helmet fits my head and my bike perfectly. My Arai , Shoei and Shuberth get used less and less.
I hear you... I absolutely love my Bell Bullitt Carbon Black Jack Ace Cafe... but I really do want something with an internal visor as it’s just not practical to carry an additional visor. Of course I can wear a clear visor and wear sunglasses as and when needed... but the Bullitt just doesn’t look great with the clear visor in my opinion.

Okay I appreciate it’s all a little first world problem but... I just feel the need for a new lid >:)
 

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For all of the incredibly expensive helmets I have bought, tried on etc....I find my favorite is one that wasn’t expensive at all and fits the Bobber great. The Biltwell Gringo and Gringo S. That helmet fits my head and my bike perfectly. My Arai , Shoei and Shuberth get used less and less.
I wear a large Arai Signet X. Would that translate to a large Bitwell? I really like the look of the Gringo or the Gringo S.
It should...I wear a small in both. Arai fits a touch smaller. Especially pulling over ears. I’d go for the S...and look at the chrome mirror bubble shield or any of the biltwell bubble shields. They are great on that helmet. I wear eyeglasses underneath as well. It’s not the helmet I’d regularly use for long distance highway riding but around town and <55mph it’s very cool.
 

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Nice AGV but, price is getting well...pricey. Can’t disagree about that logo. With all that fitting and padding maybe it’s not the right head shape for you. &#55358;&#56596; I see what you’re hung up on re: the Neotec 2 (although despite my fussiness about things like that it doesn’t seem to bother me). You can always paint it matte black. If it fits though, that’s the key thing. And it doesn’t seem to present all those other niggles you have with the AGV. BTW I’m sure you know all that padding will pack out and then you’ll have lift at speed and other fitting issues.
 

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Nice choice Mike.
Helmets are an expensive (but very worthy) investment. You should definitely try as many as you can before you buy.
I rate my Schuberth C4 highly, though it is heavier than the carbon AGV you’re looking at. The built in comms (extra) on the C4 are GREAT and made my Sena - so perform flawlessly.

Let us know what you choose...
The only thing is... I loved my C3 and thought the C4 would be a no brainer... Except that the fit is totally different and wouldn't fit at all even in the trash bin size... I have Sena in the Neotec 2 and agree they are brilliant
 

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The only thing is... I loved my C3 and thought the C4 would be a no brainer... Except that the fit is totally different and wouldn't fit at all even in the trash bin size... I have Sena in the Neotec 2 and agree they are brilliant
I’m warming to the Neotec 2... the tiny dog tongue is growing on me! :grin2:
 

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GuzziLazz, I heard that the first generation C4’s had fitment issues - but those were (apparently) dealt with quickly. However this is all hearsay and what I’ve read online.
I have a few C3 and C3 pros (in size Small) and I always prefer to ride with my C4 (also a size Small). Maybe there still are problems with the larger size shells...?
The C3 pro is great, but for day to day riding it’s hard to beat the large and wide viewing port of the C4 - as the visor is both deep & very wide.
 

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GuzziLazz, I heard that the first generation C4’s had fitment issues - but those were (apparently) dealt with quickly. However this is all hearsay and what I’ve read online.
I have a few C3 and C3 pros (in size Small) and I always prefer to ride with my C4 (also a size Small). Maybe there still are problems with the larger size shells...?
The C3 pro is great, but for day to day riding it’s hard to beat the large and wide viewing port of the C4 - as the visor is both deep & very wide.



All I can say (supported by the helmet fitter at the shop-which supplies UK police forces) is that the fit of the C3 and C4 were totally different. The C4 fit is shorter and wider for the same circumference than the C3... Shoei did the same when I tried to replace my RF (?) 1200 - and that was only a few weeks back
 

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I don’t doubt what you are saying.
Just giving my personal experience.

The Shoei are amazing helmets too, but it seems my head just likes the Schuberth shape more. I would add that I think Shoei interiors feel more “plush” and “luxurious” than any Schuberth I’ve owned.
 
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