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... aaand holy cow is it quick!!!

I’ve kind of liked them for a while so thought I’d book a test ride to see what they are all about.

First impressions - at slow moving speeds it all feels a little agricultural when compared to the Bobber. Not necessarily a bad thing in itself, just very different from the Bobber’s slick gear shifts and silky smooth feeling engine.

On an open road it feels altogether lighter, (it’s practically the same weight as the Bobber) and far easier to place in the corners which is no doubt a result of the slimmer front tyre. But I’d have thought it’s huge rear section would have upset things somewhat but that really isn’t the case. Lean angles are very sports bike like and I have to say great fun.

Speed... well with 163 bhp @ 9000 rpm and the redline at a dizzy 10,000 rpm it was never going to be slow, but I was still somewhat shocked by just how fast it is. Having said that it’s delivery is liniar and dare I say manageable.

Comfort... looking at the seating position I wasn’t really sure how well I’d fit. I of course suspcted it would be a great deal more comfortable than the Bobber, and it is indeed a nice place to sit. It’s a bike you sit in and not on like the Bobber.

Negatives... the tft display is annoyingly low and out of the natural field of view. This results in taking your eyes of the road to look at the information displayed which is less than ideal. I’m also not keen on the look of the bike directly head on but the moment you take a step to the side it looks great again. Looking down on the tank whilst in the seat is on the whole very uninspiring... the tank just looks huge and out of place. Finally the quality of the fit and finish just isn’t a patch on the Bobber or any of the new area of Triumph’s.

Verdict... none of these things really matter when compared to how it rides. It’s far more comfy, capable of being loaded up and touring, sounds great, rides great and is remarkably fast. But is it good enough for me to get ride of the Bobber, I’d say no... but would it be a worthy addition to the garage... watch this space!

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Thanks for the review.
The Diavel is a very unique bike; both stunning to look & ride. Quite honestly I can think of few people who wouldn’t want one in their garage. Even my wife said that should I ever want a one again, I have her permission.
It’s also very well suited to bigger/taller riders.
Despite having a pillion seat, I never once took my wife on it.
 

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One word: Desmodromic

Out of every bike I've ever owned, I appreciate Ducati's desmodromic valve actuated engines more than any others. Not even the beautifully engineered Rotax mill in my BMW F800 compared in terms of engineering appreciation.

Not saying that the latest titanium valve springs and micron-level tolerances of today's high-end motorcycle engines aren't engineering porn... I'm just saying that developing desmodromic technology at the performance level currently pumped out in Ducati's mass produced engines is unprecedented, and akin to Jenna Jameson Vs. Nina Hartley. Yeah, crude comparison, but meaningful concept articulation requires broad vocabulary bandwidth, and the forum text filters are challenging to work with. :laugh:
 

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Oh no, that sounds like the new bike itch! I've had the irrational itch while waiting for my bobber's custom work to be done. Good luck, and worse case, you wind up with a fun new toy.
 

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It’s a **** of a bike that’s for sure... but strangely it’s not the performance of the bike that’s left with me, although that side of things is undeniable. It’s actually the level of comfort it offers by way of comparison to the Bobber.

If I had to pick a bike to park outside of a coffee shop whilst I sat there with my drink, ogling at it... it would hands down be the Bobber. But if I had to pick a bike to never look at, but to have to ride as my only bike... I think the Diavel would have to be my choice. Again not because it’s faster and handles better, because the Bobber is fast enough and engaging enough for my needs... but because the Diavel is just so much easier to cover miles comfortably with, and touring is something I really do fancy doing next year!
 

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It’s a **** of a bike that’s for sure... but strangely it’s not the performance of the bike that’s left with me, although that side of things is undeniable. It’s actually the level of comfort it offers by way of comparison to the Bobber.

If I had to pick a bike to park outside of a coffee shop whilst I sat there with my drink, ogling at it... it would hands down be the Bobber. But if I had to pick a bike to never look at, but to have to ride as my only bike... I think the Diavel would have to be my choice. Again not because it’s faster and handles better, because the Bobber is fast enough and engaging enough for me needs... but because Diavel is just so much easier to cover miles comfortably with, and touring is something I really do fancy doing next year!
The bobber has more character, indeed. It's the looker. Also, the bobber is less tempting. What I mean by that is the bobber is less likely to seduce you into situations that are deadly. That's why I'll never again own a "sport" style bike, not even a sport cruiser.

Maybe one day, if I move away from the low country, I'll do a 1200gs Adventure... But my days of thinking... "wonder if I can take that sweeper at 35 degrees" are behind me.

I understand the luring nature of that comfort/performance factor, however.
 

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Love the Diavel. Wouldn’t really want one (and when my wife hears “Ducati “ she sort of goes into meltdown mode). A friend who I occasionally do some multi-day rides with has one. He really likes it (except when it fell on his foot in a parking lot, but that’s another story). He and I used to ride Harleys, he on a V-Rod, me on a Low Rider) but both moved on. I first went to an Indian Scout which I use for trips and now the Bobber. I think the Diavel is amazing but as Rathead says, too tempting. The Diavel-X is more cruiser like with front controls but I think there are other motorcycles that are better for long distance tours.
 

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The bobber has more character, indeed. It's the looker. Also, the bobber is less tempting. What I mean by that is the bobber is less likely to seduce you into situations that are deadly. That's why I'll never again own a "sport" style bike, not even a sport cruiser.

Maybe one day, if I move away from the low country, I'll do a 1200gs Adventure... But my days of thinking... "wonder if I can take that sweeper at 35 degrees" are behind me.

I understand the luring nature of that comfort/performance factor, however.



Don't think that Adventure Sport doesn't mean you can't get your peg down... Had it a couple of times on my Stelvio...:surprise:
 

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Xdiavel S and the Bobber

I own both. TOTALLY different! The Xdiavel is very comfortable to ride. Better suspension very comfortable seat. Belt drive, forward controls that are adjustable. Build quality is thru the roof. To say it is fast is a gross, gross understatement. That said, the Bobber with the Corbin seat and high bars is incredibly comfortable now as well. Plenty of power. I wish for a larger gas tank. I don't think the larger tank is big enough for all the trouble but am still on the fence about that.
 

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I own both. TOTALLY different! The Xdiavel is very comfortable to ride. Better suspension very comfortable seat. Belt drive, forward controls that are adjustable. Build quality is thru the roof. To say it is fast is a gross, gross understatement. That said, the Bobber with the Corbin seat and high bars is incredibly comfortable now as well. Plenty of power. I wish for a larger gas tank. I don't think the larger tank is big enough for all the trouble but am still on the fence about that.
Bobber fuel capacity: 2.377 gallons.
Speedmaster fuel capacity: 3.170 gallons.

I've averaged 48.6 mpg in the U.S. on 89 octane. That gives a real-world range of 115.5 miles stock, and 154 miles with tank swap.

If you're not planning longer trips on the bobber then it probably is a moot point. However, the 25% increased range and, IMO, more classic look of the tank swap makes this mod increasingly likely in my future.

It also opens up opportunity to customize the tank. If found for a decent price, it shouldn't cost much to respray. This leads to some interesting possibilities.
 

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Bobber fuel capacity: 2.377 gallons.
Speedmaster fuel capacity: 3.170 gallons.

I've averaged 48.6 mpg in the U.S. on 89 octane. That gives a real-world range of 115.5 miles stock, and 154 miles with tank swap.

If you're not planning longer trips on the bobber then it probably is a moot point. However, the 25% increased range and, IMO, more classic look of the tank swap makes this mod increasingly likely in my future.

It also opens up opportunity to customize the tank. If found for a decent price, it shouldn't cost much to respray. This leads to some interesting possibilities.

I manage to get anywhere between 125 & 139 miles from a tank on the B.B. which is well beyond my backsides ability cope between stops!
 

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The Duke has huge power, that’s a fact. That, to me is it’s Achilles heel. I left sports bikes behind because I could not justify their ownership on the roads. Not in this day and age anyway. Huge power is great when you can use it to it’s fullest extent but you can’t these days. To own huge power bikes these days is just jacking off. It’s like Ferrari owners - the look at me factor. A waste of money. If you can’t properly use what you’ve got in the circumstances you are in, then what’s the point?
 

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I am pleased to say I have a Diavel and a Bobber,

Yours most smugly,

- Pasta
This post is pointless without pics! :wink2:


I have to say I can’t stop thinking about the Diavel. But it’s made me realise that I need/want to test ride a few more bikes before making decisions.

Next on my list to test is the Kawasaki H2 SX. The interest isn’t so much the near 200 bhp, but more to see how comfy it is... well okay I am curious to see what a supercharged bike feels like to ride!
 

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Your Aes-thetic is showing

I have not rode a Diavel, but I would guess that coming from Ducati it is a mechanically mastered machine. However, I don't care for the aesthetics of it at all. I would give it a 2 out of 10. The Bobber is beautiful. Aesthetically I'm not sure there's another bike on the market I like more, though, I do like the upcoming release of the Indian FTR 1200.




... aaand holy cow is it quick!!!

I’ve kind of liked them for a while so thought I’d book a test ride to see what they are all about.

First impressions - at slow moving speeds it all feels a little agricultural when compared to the Bobber. Not necessarily a bad thing in itself, just very different from the Bobber’s slick gear shifts and silky smooth feeling engine.

On an open road it feels altogether lighter, (it’s practically the same weight as the Bobber) and far easier to place in the corners which is no doubt a result of the slimmer front tyre. But I’d have thought it’s huge rear section would have upset things somewhat but that really isn’t the case. Lean angles are very sports bike like and I have to say great fun.

Speed... well with 163 bhp @ 9000 rpm and the redline at a dizzy 10,000 rpm it was never going to be slow, but I was still somewhat shocked by just how fast it is. Having said that it’s delivery is liniar and dare I say manageable.

Comfort... looking at the seating position I wasn’t really sure how well I’d fit. I of course suspcted it would be a great deal more comfortable than the Bobber, and it is indeed a nice place to sit. It’s a bike you sit in and not on like the Bobber.

Negatives... the tft display is annoyingly low and out of the natural field of view. This results in taking your eyes of the road to look at the information displayed which is less than ideal. I’m also not keen on the look of the bike directly head on but the moment you take a step to the side it looks great again. Looking down on the tank whilst in the seat is on the whole very uninspiring... the tank just looks huge and out of place. Finally the quality of the fit and finish just isn’t a patch on the Bobber or any of the new area of Triumph’s.

Verdict... none of these things really matter when compared to how it rides. It’s far more comfy, capable of being loaded up and touring, sounds great, rides great and is remarkably fast. But is it good enough for me to get ride of the Bobber, I’d say no... but would it be a worthy addition to the garage... watch this space!

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Here is my pic :smile2:

Thanks for the pic... that’s the carbon version right? I have to say that I actually prefer the look of the bike all in black.

I need to ride the X Diavel to see if the price hike is worth it or not. Who’s ridden both?
 

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This post is pointless without pics! :wink2:
I have to say I can’t stop thinking about the Diavel. But it’s made me realise that I need/want to test ride a few more bikes before making decisions.
Next on my list to test is the Kawasaki H2 SX. The interest isn’t so much the near 200 bhp, but more to see how comfy it is... well okay I am curious to see what a supercharged bike feels like to ride!
My supercharged/intercooled R111 makes twice that power & 300ftlb, it is frightening, lighting up the rear tyre at triple digit speeds,
that is why I enjoy riding my civilized little bobber so much.
 
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