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I did think about adding that, but as you pointed out, it's really just the Fox that lacks this feature. I think in the interest of space, I can add a note in its 'Damping' column.



Yes! Again, wasn't sure where to make this fit in.
How about just an extra column for special notes/comments? Would work in both instances.
 
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Their spec calls it a ‘gas cell twin tube construction with a sealed gas cell ‘
That's really interesting. This would be the only twin tube design I've seen for the Bobber. Twin tubes are great for smooth on-road use, because you can get more piston stroke out of an equal length tube. Twin tubes are generally a very limited emulsion type by design, but this description says 'sealed gas cell.' Very curious.
 
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I paid £636 including VAT (20%) and delivery in February 2023 so it’s a little more than you have in your table. The original price I was quoted at my initial enquiry was £510 plus VAT so perhaps that’s what’s missing here.
Yeah, the table shows price without VAT.

The damping adjustment is separate too.
I'll see if I can squeeze that info into the table. Might need to throw in some abbreviations to make this all work.

btw, what park of Lanarkshire are you from? I spent a year at University of Glasgow.
 
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I didn't realize that there were so many shock options...
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly the reason I did this. I've already decided on my upgrade, but I've seen that a lot of folks are just unaware of the variety out there. Lots of folks on this forum talking about Wilbers and Ohlin, but it thins out quickly from there. The idea here is to put the assorted models up on peoples' radar and let them explore.
 
Yeah, the table shows price without VAT.



I'll see if I can squeeze that info into the table. Might need to throw in some abbreviations to make this all work.

btw, what park of Lanarkshire are you from? I spent a year at University of Glasgow.
Yes I guess the more info you add the more unwieldy the table becomes.
I’m just outside Lanark out in the countryside about 30 miles south of Glasgow. My office is in Glasgow city centre though. Glasgow uni has a good reputation, though I went to uni down in England due to various reasons.
 
Thank you this is the the exact post we need!

I want to add that I took my '22 SM with Wilbers 640 emulsion shock to a professional suspension tuner and he said that emulsion is not meant to be used at this horizontal of an orientation and therefore will not perform correctly. I am switching to a Nitron R1 since I am quite the fan of the R3 I have on another bike and it's quite apparent that they are very high quality, but I think any IFP is a good choice for these bikes.

I'm relieved to have this confirmed because as soon as I installed the 640 I was incredibly surprised at the lack of damping. IMO stay away from the emulsions for Bobber / Speedmaster.

PS Ktech shock part # is 283B-250-270-BOB
 
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emulsion is not meant to be used at this horizontal of an orientation
I agree, but feel it is adequate in this application, given the relatively soft life of our bikes. Folks can decide for themselves when they are armed with the necessary information, which is what I am trying to encourage here. Still, I'm very happy circumstances led me back to Nitron.

Thank you, btw. It was your post over on the Triumph Rat forum that led me down the path of ordering from a UK shop. I also noticed a bit later that you dropped the same information here (and your seemingly same experience with the USA West Coast Wilbers distributor).
 
Glad to help! I have learned quite a lot about suspension in the past couple years, I can thank the Race Tech Suspension Bible (crazy it's only $4 on Kindle) and Dave Moss.

I should make a video with the Wilbers and then in comparison to the Nitron after I get that to show the difference in shock action.

I can tell from my other bikes that the Wilbers is unlike any other rear shock in that the action is almost completely undamped, and was like that from the day I put it in -- I still remember that surprise on day 1 testing it on the workbench being like "whaaaatttt??"

Oh and that stock shock is KYB if I remember the label correctly (I lost the OEM shock)
 
I was just looking at the various shocks on the list mainly to see the darker colour options and this Fox pic taken from Triumph website has preload adjustability?
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I was just looking at the various shocks on the list mainly to see the darker colour options and this Fox pic taken from Triumph website has preload adjustability?
Scroll down a little further to the description. They are just using a stock generic photo of the shock, not the model specific version. It has fooled many before, I've seen this on multiple threads.
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I have an update for this great Shock Upgrade list. In regards to the Ohlins TR729, The "18 Clicks" of Rebound adjustment is actually the Ohlins "recommended Rebound setting" ± 5 clicks and not the Total amount of adjustment. This information comes from the TR729 Mounting Instructions that can be found online. I have yet to find the "Total" amount of Rebound adjustment spec for this Shock but I'm not overly concerned about that number considering the impeccable reputation of Ohlins Suspension.
I'm thinking a new rear shock is coming my way in the near future.................. decisions, decisions.......:LOL::ROFLMAO:...... Will it be Ohlins? .......... or will it be Nitron R1? .................... TBD
 
That makes perfectly good sense. That puts the 18 click recommended setting smack dab in the middle of the adjustment. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
 
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