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An opportunity to save £2500 on a brand new BMW 1200GS Adventure Rallye TE has come up and I’m keen to get your opinions.

I’ve been looking for another bike for touring for a while now. The GS’s have been highly recommended but I’ve read concerting things regarding their reliability and quality of finish.

The bike in question comes with a 3 year warranty. It’s available to buy based on paying a £220 deposit and then £220 pcm over 48 month’s, at which point I can make a final payment of £9,100 and keep the bike, or hand it back and walk away or trade it in for another.

What’s your thought?
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I suppose that the price drop is due to the release of the 1250 which is claimed as a “better” bike having a smoother throttle & fueling, more power and improved gearbox/internals.

Either way, the “old” 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - it’s probably the best all rounder I’ve ever owned. BMW have made me multiple offers to trade mine in for the new 1250 GSA, but I am simply too attached to mine which I’ve had for almost 5 years now and I can think of no good reason to change a perfect bike.

If you buy one, you won’t be sorry. But like all bikes, be prepared to spend some money on mods (especially with your height/build). Seat, screen, pegs & bar risers will be first on your list. Feel free to PM me anytime if you want some more input and let us know what you decide.
 

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I suppose that the price drop is due to the release of the 1250 which is claimed as a “better” bike having a smoother throttle & fueling, more power and improved gearbox/internals.

Either way, the “old” 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - it’s probably the best all rounder I’ve ever owned. BMW have made me multiple offers to trade mine in for the new 1250 GSA, but I am simply too attached to mine which I’ve had for almost 5 years now and I can think of no good reason to change a perfect bike.

If you buy one, you won’t be sorry. But like all bikes, be prepared to spend some money on mods (especially with your height/build). Seat, screen, pegs & bar risers will be first on your list. Feel free to PM me anytime if you want some more input and let us know what you decide.
Very kind... I’m going to test ride one today so will let you know how I get on!
 

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That's almost 20,000 P. How much is an outright purchase?

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Effectively the cost of credit over a 4 year period works out to be £3k and some change. Not cheap but I’ve got other places to be putting large chunks of my money at the moment so this method takes the sting out.

I should add... I kind of look at it more as a rental than anything... and at £220 pcm it’s **** cheap when compared to a traditional rental which is around £1000 per week for such a bike!
 

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Either way, the “old” 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - it’s probably the best all rounder I’ve ever owned.
I agree 100%. Over the years I have owned two R1200GSs. It is the only bike that I have ever bought twice. It is the best bike that I ever owned. If I could climb on one I would still have one . . . but I can't. :frown2:
 

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No doubt about it.....BMW build some fantastic bikes.
A 1200 would be a bit big and heavy for me but despite being Triumph biased, I completely get why so many riders buy the GSA range for touring.
If you love it......Go for it! Only one life!!
 

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So I managed to carry out a back to back test ride today of the 2018 1200 GS Adventure Rallye TE and the all new 1250 GS Adventure.

My thoughts... there really isn’t a lot in it in my opinions. Yes the new 1250 engine had some advantages, most notelably it feels a little smoother, especially in slower moving traffic whilst in 1st & 2nd gear. It also has a slight edge over the older 1200 engine, by means of pulling that little harder in the final 1000 rpm or so.

But to be honest, that aside they are indeed the very same bike spec wise and I certainly won’t be parting with another 3+k for the 1250.

The deal on offer for the brand new 2019 1200 GSA Rallye TE slipped through my fingers... with all three remaining bikes being bought whilst I was out on the test ride would you believe!

However, they have two used options that appeal, and I just need to decide which suits me best.

Options 1:

1200 GSA Rallye TE, 1 owner, 1450 miles, absolutely mint condition, 2 year warrenty and it comes with a very fruity akrapovic exhaust. £14,750. Contract Hire Purchase... £500 deposit, £197 pcm over 48 month’s, optional final payment of £8500 ish.

Option 2:

1200 GSA Rallye TE, pre reg Dec 2018, 7 miles, obviously mint as effectively new, 2 1/2 year warranty, no fruity exhaust. £15,999. Contract Hire Purchase...£500 despotic, £230 pcm over 48 month’s, optional final payment of £8500 ish.

I have no intention of making the final payment of 8k+ at the end of the 4 years. I’m very much looking at this as a very cheap means of renting a **** of a lot of bike for what I feel to be a bargain price. At the end of the 4 years I’d either walk away or if they have something of interest simply trade it in and embark on the same deal.

As always I welcome your thoughts on the options. I loved the akrapovic exhaust which is itself £1000 so I find myself leaning towards option 1. This was also the actual bike I test rode. I appreciate option 2 hasn’t seen the road before but of course it’s a little more pcm, hasn’t had all of the recall works done and needs running in... which is a pita.

Here’s a pic of the GSA dwarfing the Bobber!

 

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Nice review, Mike.

I love seeing the GSA and Bobber together. They compliment each other in so many ways - probably cause they are so fundamentally different in what they set out to acheive.

Option 1 plus a HILLTOP ECU , up&back bar risers, MRA XCREEN (reduce buffeting), better saddle for support and you´re set !! :grin2:
 

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Nice review, Mike.

I love seeing the GSA and Bobber together. They compliment each other in so many ways - probably cause they are so fundamentally different in what they set out to acheive.

Option 1 plus a HILLTOP ECU , up&back bar risers, MRA XCREEN (reduce buffeting), better saddle for support and you´re set !! :grin2:

Somehow I missed your reply... but couldn’t agree more. They work well in a pic together owing to the fact that they are such polar opposites!

UPDATE... picking the new bike up on Friday!

Thanks for the suggestions... I certainly need to sort the bufferting issue out and assumed the best course of action would be a completely new screen, but you find this addition works well obviously?
 

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Congrats Mike!!!
Great choice and you are going to love the GSA.
Which one did you go for in the end??

Regarding buffeting, PM me for solutions. There are a few things that can help from either Puig, Wunderlich and MRA.
As you’ve probably guessed, I have them all!

I do have a Wunderlich vario screen deflector which you are welcome to try. It’s small and effective.
As I said, PM and we will sort something out.
 

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Congrats Mike!!!
Great choice and you are going to love the GSA.
Which one did you go for in the end??

Regarding buffeting, PM me for solutions. There are a few things that can help from either Puig, Wunderlich and MRA.
As you’ve probably guessed, I have them all!

I do have a Wunderlich vario screen deflector which you are welcome to try. It’s small and effective.
As I said, PM and we will sort something out.
I’ve actually bought the exact one in the pic. The spec and the price ultimately made the choice for me in the end.

As always you’re a gent... I’ll be in touch to pic your brains later :wink2:
 

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Nice bike Mike!

That has got to be the broadest application of two wheeled mobility going!

I have been considering a similar move, and, not to high jack Mikes thread, (sorry Mike) but, What kind of inseam are you fellas with these bikes? I am only a 32 inch (US I suppose?) and I remember getting cramps in my feet in traffic from standing on the balls of my feet. I know Freddy talked about the trophies a bit with regard to leg length but I don't think he ever mention his inseam measurement.

Maybe a different thread from you guys with these dual purpose bikes would be informative?
 

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I’m 6’ 1” with a 34” inseam.
Also incredibly handsome :grin2:

No problem reaching the ground with OEM or aftermarket seat.

The GSA is a phenomenal bike and Wilbers offers lowered suspension if needed.
I recently upgraded to their W-ESA front and rear (I kept the OEM height). The change was amazing and very welcome!
 

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Congrats Mike,

That bike looks to be a serious piece of kit for sure. I once road coast to coast on a HD Springer, it was a trip of a lifetime and as much as I loved it, something tells me I would have been more comfortable on one of these.

A great bike, well done that man.

Cheerio,

Roy
Cheers Roy.

It’s funny and I’ve come to realise... the GS Adventure is the bike best suited to getting there... but the Bobber is the bike you want to be on when you arrive!
 

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Congratulations on the new purchase, Mike! Glad you got it all sorted.
Thank you brother... for the first time ever I feel I have all basis covered bike wise. Having said that I’ve aleady worked out that there’s more space yet in the garage for additional bikes! >:)
 

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Nice bike Mike!

That has got to be the broadest application of two wheeled mobility going!

I have been considering a similar move, and, not to high jack Mikes thread, (sorry Mike) but, What kind of inseam are you fellas with these bikes? I am only a 32 inch (US I suppose?) and I remember getting cramps in my feet in traffic from standing on the balls of my feet. I know Freddy talked about the trophies a bit with regard to leg length but I don't think he ever mention his inseam measurement.

Maybe a different thread from you guys with these dual purpose bikes would be informative?
Not at all... hijack away! :wink2:

I have a 35/36” inside leg so find all three of my limbs reach the floor comfortably! :grin2:

Joking aside... the seat is adjustable with three height variants on offer. I also believe the suspension itself is adjustable to a degree, although Eisen might be able to confirm this as in truth I’m very knee to the bike so I’m unsure.

I would add that despite my impressive limb measurements, (>:)) I found the highest seat seating to be too high. Whilst I can get both feet flat on the floor, I could envisage a moment when stopping over a pothole or such like and finding myself unable to comfortably find good old terra firma. But also thought, it might just be because I’m so used riding the Bobber and having my legs resemble that of a crickets ?
 
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