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It might be coincidence but I’ve noticed most of the new forum members are Bobber Black owners, is this a trend? :surprise:

I read a few months back that Triumph thought the Speedmaster would out sell the Bobber and Bobber Black in North America but from what I’ve heard the Bobber Black seems to be top of the charts worldwide. Does anyone have any idea of which models are selling best?
 

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It might be coincidence but I’ve noticed most of the new forum members are Bobber Black owners, is this a trend? :surprise:

I read a few months back that Triumph thought the Speedmaster would out sell the Bobber and Bobber Black in North America but from what I’ve heard the Bobber Black seems to be top of the charts worldwide. Does anyone have any idea of which models are selling best?
MCN paper done a test on the Speedmaster and said it was uncomfortable seat set up. Marketing and test reports dont always tell the truth. Guess Guzzilad will be on here soon and tell a different story to the MCN paper.

The B.Black is sell more because of the extra upgrades to the original. If people had know it was in the pipeline they wouldnt have bought the original.
 

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The B.Black is sell more because of the extra upgrades to the original. If people had know it was in the pipeline they wouldnt have bought the original.
I’m not sure about that. Yes, with it's better handling, better brakes, L.E.D. headlight, and cruise control for just a tiny bit more it should be a no brainer, but for me and I guess for many of the people who bought the original Bobber it’s not, as:

I don’t like the Bobber Black's fat front end.
I don’t want an LED headlight on a retro.
I don’t need cruise control.
I don’t want a totally blacked out bike.

Better braking and handling are hard to argue with but I think the original Bobber’s set up is fine, it out performs my old Harley 48 in every way and if performance was the defining issue I would of bought a new Street Triple for similar money! But maybe you’re right, maybe the combination of the Bobber Black, the Speedmaster, and fashion will kill off Triumph's best selling bike of all time! :surprise:
 

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I'm with Bobber-Bomb on that sentiment.

I do like LED headlights (and have one), however not the one Triumph put on the BB.

I think the OG Bobber handles pretty dam respectable for what it is. Yes, the skinny tire can track a bit, but I don't have problems with it and prefer the taller rim.

Better braking always a plus, but I don't really have an issue with the original's one. Yes, a little wooden, but it can stop quickly.

If both were sitting next to each other in the showroom, I'd respect and like the BB, but would drool on the original.
 

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I'm paying £800 for my first yearly service - all black engine parts :) because i'm a lazy ******* and cant keep up with the washing demands of bare sodding low grade ally crap that's installed (I commute daily regardless of weather unless there is ice on my side street that's never gritted)

However as much as I cuss the Bobber's braking, I don't want dual front disks and a fat front tyre I love the open hub on one side, kind of like a reverse single sided swing arm view (almost), I like the way the original grounds out on command going round corners or just misses grounding with a little twitch on the seat (though I don't know if the black does that as well with the fatter front end).

Oh and my Bobber is mine and it's the 3rd bike in 30 years I really want to keep hold of (the other 2 are the CBX1000 i stupidly got rid of and the 955 Triple i wan even more stupid to let go for a pittance when i bouth my T800 5 or 6 years ago).

MY Bobber is a keeper! I can ride it without too much back pain, my hands don't go numb and it pi$$es off my neighbours, who could want more :)
 

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?

My reasons for the SM are:

Needed feet forward to allow my left knee to be comfortable post last year's op...
Wife rides pillion...
Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50).

As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...
 

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?

My reasons for the SM are:

Needed feet forward to allow my left knee to be comfortable post last year's op...
Wife rides pillion...
Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50).

As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...
So the MCN test report on the comfort of the seat was not "general" then, good.
You can put the FWD pegs on the Bobber if you want..but your stuffed for taking the wife out. (get her to buy a bobber :wink2:)

Seems the sighting of another bobber is rare as a Dodo..but a SM is like Hens Teeth.
 

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So the MCN test report on the comfort of the seat was not "general" then, good.
You can put the FWD pegs on the Bobber if you want..but your stuffed for taking the wife out. (get her to buy a bobber :wink2:)

Seems the sighting of another bobber is rare as a Dodo..but a SM is like Hens Teeth.
Hen's Teeth equals, none existent?

Only hen I know is Speckled Hen....
 

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I'm paying £800 for my first yearly service - all black engine parts :) because i'm a lazy ******* and cant keep up with the washing demands of bare sodding low grade ally crap that's installed (I commute daily regardless of weather unless there is ice on my side street that's never gritted)

However as much as I cuss the Bobber's braking, I don't want dual front disks and a fat front tyre I love the open hub on one side, kind of like a reverse single sided swing arm view (almost), I like the way the original grounds out on command going round corners or just misses grounding with a little twitch on the seat (though I don't know if the black does that as well with the fatter front end).

Oh and my Bobber is mine and it's the 3rd bike in 30 years I really want to keep hold of (the other 2 are the CBX1000 i stupidly got rid of and the 955 Triple i wan even more stupid to let go for a pittance when i bouth my T800 5 or 6 years ago).

MY Bobber is a keeper! I can ride it without too much back pain, my hands don't go numb and it pi$$es off my neighbours, who could want more :)
Ethariel:

What vintage is your CBX? Mine is '79 red.

Chico
 

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I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50). As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...
I saw a 2018 Speedmaster last week parked up in Matlock and spoke to the owner so they are out there. I do however find it odd how muted the bike press have been with the Speedmaster after heaping so much praise on the Bobber Black. But this post was never about which one’s best I know that already it’s the OG Bobber :wink2: This was about which one's selling best and that I’m guessing is the BB but does anyone have the inside track? To back up my case I see Triumph are currently offering £500 worth of accessories when you buy a new Bobber but not with the Bobber Black.
 

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I got rid of the CBX, must be 20 years ago, started to develop a wee knocking and puffing a lot of white smoke especially on the overrun, so i filled it up with a really heavy oil and part X it in, dealer called 2 days later and told me to stuff the warranty on the new one and never to come back - i guess the engine was terminal.

Was a silver one once upon a time but had, had a white fibreglass body kit added and 2x 3 into 1 stainless exhausts so short they used to melt the heel on my boots or even set it on fire :p

Still regret not trying to fix it myself but 6 of everything was too much back then.
 

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I was contemplating trading my 17 Bobber for the speedmaster until I sat on one. Seat is uncomfortable and those handlebars are really awkward so I'll stick with the original which I love! The BB is nice but that front tire is ugly and someday people will look back and ask why did they black those bikes out when the trendiness is over! The original Bobber is retro to the core and I agree with previous statements that some of the features are nice on the BB but unnecessary (LED Headlight and cruise control) Long live my Merelot Bobber!
 

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?

My reasons for the SM are:

Needed feet forward to allow my left knee to be comfortable post last year's op...
Wife rides pillion...
Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50).

As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...
My buddy and I both bought new Bonneville variations on the same day. Me a Bobber Black , him a Speedmaster (He is registered on here , but he lurks.....:confused: ). Every time we're together , he laments that he would rather have the Bobber , but bought the SM for the wife. I respect the decision. I bought All of my bike based on my wife's comfort , until she started piloting her own rides , and hasn't been my passenger for 15 years. The both look sharp (and how some despise the 16" front on the black , but don't even mention it on the SM is beyond me) but they both have their place. I'm glad you are enjoying yours , and my buddy loves his.

My forward control kit is here and sitting on the dinner table. Looking forward to the install.
 

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?


Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

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hmm didn't you forget the Triumph Thunderbird? I think their pegs are even more forward than Speedmaster's...
Everone to his tastes, the feet forward thing did put me off the Speedmaster (although I had already bought the Bobber before I had the first chance to sit on a Speedmaster)
 

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I have shared my test ride experience and personal impression about the Speedmaster vs Bobber in my introduction post, not going into detail.
In short, the footpegs are too forward for me and even though the seat is soft, that stretched position means that my tailbone hurt after 30 minutes since every bump and all vibrations would go directly to the spine. I prefer the more sporty/forward sitting position, combined with the much more direct handlebars on the Bobber A LOT.

My local dealer (which is rather small) had one regular Bobber with Apes and several accessories in the showroom, one BB in Jet black, one in matte and one pimped out SM. They had both an additional BB and SM for test rides.

When buying my BB, they told me that all the Bobbers in the showroom would be available, but all their Speedmaster would either be sold or reserved.
They seem to have good sales on both. When I signed the purchase for my matte BB, they just rolled in another one from storage and in fact I picked the one they just brought in (it didn't have any stickers on it yet and I asked them to keep it like that). When I came back for the 800 km/500 mile service about a week later now, the other matte BB was gone, too.

I think in general the whole Bobber series is selling well, the SM probably seeing a bit of a rush now because it's the two seated Bobber that a lot of people have been waiting for, while the BB is just a relaunched Bobber but nothing fundamentally new.

Tom
 

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hmm didn't you forget the Triumph Thunderbird? I think their pegs are even more forward than Speedmaster's...
Everone to his tastes, the feet forward thing did put me off the Speedmaster (although I had already bought the Bobber before I had the first chance to sit on a Speedmaster)
Thunderbird despite still being on Triumph's website is out of production... It's what I originally went to the dealer to look at. Mind you it's a lot heavier at over 300kg... pushing that up the last 8 feet into the garage would be interesting...
 

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Hi Chaps,

I have enjoyed this discussion and read with interest the many diverse views. I can't really add a great deal to the topic. But I chose the Bobber Black for no other reason than that of an emotional decision based on my reaction at seeing one. Although my (American) wife say (like most Brits) I'm devoid of emotions...:wink2:

I think that all three of these bikes are really cracking and if Triumph was only offering one of them and I had never seen all three, then I would be all over that singular model.

Perhaps the point I'm trying to make is how wonderful it is with have 'three' similar models to choose from and fit our individual preference? Gosh if I was a wealthy gent I would have all three.

Cheerio,

Roy
 
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