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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 03-21-2019, 06:57 PM Thread Starter
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BMW 1200 GSA Rallye TE... any good?

An opportunity to save £2500 on a brand new BMW 1200GS Adventure Rallye TE has come up and I’m keen to get your opinions.

I’ve been looking for another bike for touring for a while now. The GS’s have been highly recommended but I’ve read concerting things regarding their reliability and quality of finish.

The bike in question comes with a 3 year warranty. It’s available to buy based on paying a £220 deposit and then £220 pcm over 48 month’s, at which point I can make a final payment of £9,100 and keep the bike, or hand it back and walk away or trade it in for another.

What’s your thought?
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That's almost 20,000 P. How much is an outright purchase?

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I suppose that the price drop is due to the release of the 1250 which is claimed as a ďbetterĒ bike having a smoother throttle & fueling, more power and improved gearbox/internals.

Either way, the ďoldĒ 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - itís probably the best all rounder Iíve ever owned. BMW have made me multiple offers to trade mine in for the new 1250 GSA, but I am simply too attached to mine which Iíve had for almost 5 years now and I can think of no good reason to change a perfect bike.

If you buy one, you wonít be sorry. But like all bikes, be prepared to spend some money on mods (especially with your height/build). Seat, screen, pegs & bar risers will be first on your list. Feel free to PM me anytime if you want some more input and let us know what you decide.
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I suppose that the price drop is due to the release of the 1250 which is claimed as a ďbetterĒ bike having a smoother throttle & fueling, more power and improved gearbox/internals.

Either way, the ďoldĒ 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - itís probably the best all rounder Iíve ever owned. BMW have made me multiple offers to trade mine in for the new 1250 GSA, but I am simply too attached to mine which Iíve had for almost 5 years now and I can think of no good reason to change a perfect bike.

If you buy one, you wonít be sorry. But like all bikes, be prepared to spend some money on mods (especially with your height/build). Seat, screen, pegs & bar risers will be first on your list. Feel free to PM me anytime if you want some more input and let us know what you decide.
Very kind... Iím going to test ride one today so will let you know how I get on!
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That's almost 20,000 P. How much is an outright purchase?

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Effectively the cost of credit over a 4 year period works out to be £3k and some change. Not cheap but I’ve got other places to be putting large chunks of my money at the moment so this method takes the sting out.

I should add... I kind of look at it more as a rental than anything... and at £220 pcm it’s **** cheap when compared to a traditional rental which is around £1000 per week for such a bike!
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Either way, the ďoldĒ 1200 is an amazing bike and though it may sound a like an exaggeration - itís probably the best all rounder Iíve ever owned.
I agree 100%. Over the years I have owned two R1200GSs. It is the only bike that I have ever bought twice. It is the best bike that I ever owned. If I could climb on one I would still have one . . . but I can't.

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Coffee ride this morning.
(She needs a wash after a very rainy ride on Wednesday!)

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No doubt about it.....BMW build some fantastic bikes.
A 1200 would be a bit big and heavy for me but despite being Triumph biased, I completely get why so many riders buy the GSA range for touring.
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So I managed to carry out a back to back test ride today of the 2018 1200 GS Adventure Rallye TE and the all new 1250 GS Adventure.

My thoughts... there really isnít a lot in it in my opinions. Yes the new 1250 engine had some advantages, most notelably it feels a little smoother, especially in slower moving traffic whilst in 1st & 2nd gear. It also has a slight edge over the older 1200 engine, by means of pulling that little harder in the final 1000 rpm or so.

But to be honest, that aside they are indeed the very same bike spec wise and I certainly wonít be parting with another 3+k for the 1250.

The deal on offer for the brand new 2019 1200 GSA Rallye TE slipped through my fingers... with all three remaining bikes being bought whilst I was out on the test ride would you believe!

However, they have two used options that appeal, and I just need to decide which suits me best.

Options 1:

1200 GSA Rallye TE, 1 owner, 1450 miles, absolutely mint condition, 2 year warrenty and it comes with a very fruity akrapovic exhaust. £14,750. Contract Hire Purchase... £500 deposit, £197 pcm over 48 monthís, optional final payment of £8500 ish.

Option 2:

1200 GSA Rallye TE, pre reg Dec 2018, 7 miles, obviously mint as effectively new, 2 1/2 year warranty, no fruity exhaust. £15,999. Contract Hire Purchase...£500 despotic, £230 pcm over 48 monthís, optional final payment of £8500 ish.

I have no intention of making the final payment of 8k+ at the end of the 4 years. Iím very much looking at this as a very cheap means of renting a **** of a lot of bike for what I feel to be a bargain price. At the end of the 4 years Iíd either walk away or if they have something of interest simply trade it in and embark on the same deal.

As always I welcome your thoughts on the options. I loved the akrapovic exhaust which is itself £1000 so I find myself leaning towards option 1. This was also the actual bike I test rode. I appreciate option 2 hasnít seen the road before but of course itís a little more pcm, hasnít had all of the recall works done and needs running in... which is a pita.

Hereís a pic of the GSA dwarfing the Bobber!


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Nice review, Mike.

I love seeing the GSA and Bobber together. They compliment each other in so many ways - probably cause they are so fundamentally different in what they set out to acheive.

Option 1 plus a HILLTOP ECU , up&back bar risers, MRA XCREEN (reduce buffeting), better saddle for support and youīre set !!
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