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Evening brothers...

So itís Saturday night, my wife is out and here I sit... looking at porn... of the motorcycle kind!

Joking aside the modding bug has been biting hard of late with, many additions being considered and like many of you, (those that havenít already) I keep looking into tail tidy options. The original and existing set up doesnít offend me but I have always felt there to be room for improvement. Having said that Iím yet to see an option that has me 100% convinced that itís time to pull the trigger. Yet I find myself revisiting the Wunderkind site from time to time to look at their take on the matter. Whilst I like what they have done for the most part, two elements donít completely win me over. Namely the fender itself being a little shorter than Iíd ideally like but mostly because it would result in having to have a side mounted plate... which is something Iím very much on the fence about.

Iíd be interested in hearing your collective thoughts and to learn of any suggestions you might have.

Iím sure most of you have already seen the Wunderkind option but just in case please see below. Also... Iíve attached another link to a bike with a rear fender that I do really feel has the length just about spot on.

https://wunderkind-custom.com/en/mot...nation-triumph

https://www.financialexpress.com/aut...hotos/1023915/
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I actually quite like the rear fender as stock however I've only had my BB for a few weeks so that may well change over time.
I'm no expert in custom mods but if you have a particular length of rear fender in mind would it not be better to find a quality custom shop and have it done exactly to your liking. I think if I were going to alter the rear end on mine I'd want something to my exact taste and unique to me. To date my visual changes have been minor like covers, lads, grips, seat etc. A tail tidy is a considerable step further so worth investing the time and money to have your perfect bike.
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I really wish someone would make a full length mudguard.

It looks like for my future project I'm going to have to splice two together. Will all the 'short' fender options out there, you think at least one maker would offer a longer option.

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I think that both the Wunderkind and Bike Brothers tail tidy/chopped fenders look fantastic and are worth every penny.
I can honestly say that i was not a fan of the OEM setup at all.
Both companies are great to deal with and Detlef at Wunderkind will answer any questions you may have quickly & efficiently.

Saying that, side mounted plates are illegal in Spain (and most of the EU, i believe) and iīve already been pulled over & fined. In all fairness to Mr. Policeman, my riding ®style® that morning DID entitle me to being pulled over was not stopped solely for having the side mounted plate . In 99.9% of cases they would not even notice or care about the plate.
So, iīve been in contact with Markus at Bike Brothers to try and design a rear mounted plate holder that will work with the short fender. Think Diavel or Norton Dominator style. I would like to have such a mount in case one day i decide to change the look or pass the MOT without having to reinstall the OEM fender.


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I really wish someone would make a full length mudguard.

It looks like for my future project I'm going to have to splice two together. Will all the 'short' fender options out there, you think at least one maker would offer a longer option.

Cheerio,

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Hi Roy,

You should have a look at what TriRocket, (I think thatís his user name...Iím terrible at remembering names!) has done to his rear fender set up. Very classic looking and I believe it would be in keeping with the direction you are taking your bike
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I think that both the Wunderkind and Bike Brothers tail tidy/chopped fenders look fantastic and are worth every penny.
I can honestly say that i was not a fan of the OEM setup at all.
Both companies are great to deal with and Detlef at Wunderkind will answer any questions you may have quickly & efficiently.

Saying that, side mounted plates are illegal in Spain (and most of the EU, i believe) and iīve already been pulled over & fined. In all fairness to Mr. Policeman, my riding ®style® that morning DID entitle me to being pulled over was not stopped solely for having the side mounted plate . In 99.9% of cases they would not even notice or care about the plate.
So, iīve been in contact with Markus at Bike Brothers to try and design a rear mounted plate holder that will work with the short fender. Think Diavel or Norton Dominator style. I would like to have such a mount in case one day i decide to change the look or pass the MOT without having to reinstall the OEM fender.


Hey Eisen,

Thanks for this. Like you state it is illegal to run a side plate in the U.K. but again unlikely to lead to any real issues with the law... unless you give them good reason to stop you in the first place

I think it would be pretty easy to having a bracket fabricated in the same fashion as the Diavel, even if it was just for MOT purposes. But to my eye I think ultimately the look is too modern for the Bobbers.

On reflection the side plate does at least have an old school rebel look to it... but again and without offending our American brothers... itís just a little too Harley D to be truly suited to a British bike. But that isnít what hold me back from going down that route... what does is the lack of symmetry.

I guess now at least itís clear to see why Iíve not to date pushed the button on a given route. Remove the number plate from the equation and for me the Wunderkind kit is the way forward. Perhaps Iíll just mount the number plate on the back of my leather jacket instead!
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Like you state it is illegal to run a side plate in the U.K. but again unlikely to lead to any real issues with the law... unless you give them good reason to stop you in the first place
Hi Mike, it's NOT illegal to run a side plate in the UK, and as long you follow some simple guidelines you'll have no trouble getting it through an MOT. If this wasn't the case then half the Harley's would be off the road

1. Regardless of where the plate is mounted the brake/tail lights should be still centred on the bike.

2. The plate should be clearly visible from behind - ie not so far forward towards the pegs that it gets obscured by the rear wheel when viewed from the opposite side.

3. It must be mounted securely and safely (common sense).

4. It must be lit up.

From a UK point of view the problem with the Triumph's own short mudguard was not the side mounted plate but the US spec red flashing indicator/brake lights, which is why the first thing people do over here is swap them for a combined amber/red indicator/brake light usually from Rizoma.

With regards to the Bike Brothers vs Wunderkind short mudguards I think they both look awesome and there's no wrong choice but for me I think the built in indicators of the Wunderkind pip it.

Now whether it's worth doing that's really down to you if you're into Americana then go for it. I think side plates really go well with Apes, drag pipes, and swing arm bags and I wouldn't worry about the Americanisation of a British bike after all back in the day bobbers were an American thing.

Personally while I can see the attraction (particularly if you live somewhere were it doesn't rain) I think in getting rid of the OEM rear mudguard is a mistake, you're removing one of the best design features of the Bobber. After all there are plenty of bike out there with fake hard-tails and short mudguards but there's only the Bobber that has that tire hugging rear mudguard that's so evocative of bikes from the past.
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Very True BB. You donít want to be riding with a chopped fender in the rain or ANY kind of wet road for that matter. My leather jacket still shows the marks from the grimy water

Iím not big into Americana, itís just personal taste and I like the way the rear wheel is shown off & the integrated lights clean up the look.
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Hey Eisen,

Thanks for this. Like you state it is illegal to run a side plate in the U.K. but again unlikely to lead to any real issues with the law... unless you give them good reason to stop you in the first place

I think it would be pretty easy to having a bracket fabricated in the same fashion as the Diavel, even if it was just for MOT purposes. But to my eye I think ultimately the look is too modern for the Bobbers.

On reflection the side plate does at least have an old school rebel look to it... but again and without offending our American brothers... itís just a little too Harley D to be truly suited to a British bike. But that isnít what hold me back from going down that route... what does is the lack of symmetry.

I guess now at least itís clear to see why Iíve not to date pushed the button on a given route. Remove the number plate from the equation and for me the Wunderkind kit is the way forward. Perhaps Iíll just mount the number plate on the back of my leather jacket instead!

Moskis make one: I have it fitted, see my other post.

https://www.triumphbobberforum.com/f...-today-41.html

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Okey dokey. Ordered the tail tidy plate holder from Moskis.
Will try to ride more “considerately” and not get pulled over again.

Here is the link:
https://moskis.eu/en/product/soporte...ton-2004-2016/
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