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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-06-2018, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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Just took the Ducati Diavel out...

... aaand holy cow is it quick!!!

Iíve kind of liked them for a while so thought Iíd book a test ride to see what they are all about.

First impressions - at slow moving speeds it all feels a little agricultural when compared to the Bobber. Not necessarily a bad thing in itself, just very different from the Bobberís slick gear shifts and silky smooth feeling engine.

On an open road it feels altogether lighter, (itís practically the same weight as the Bobber) and far easier to place in the corners which is no doubt a result of the slimmer front tyre. But Iíd have thought itís huge rear section would have upset things somewhat but that really isnít the case. Lean angles are very sports bike like and I have to say great fun.

Speed... well with 163 bhp @ 9000 rpm and the redline at a dizzy 10,000 rpm it was never going to be slow, but I was still somewhat shocked by just how fast it is. Having said that itís delivery is liniar and dare I say manageable.

Comfort... looking at the seating position I wasnít really sure how well Iíd fit. I of course suspcted it would be a great deal more comfortable than the Bobber, and it is indeed a nice place to sit. Itís a bike you sit in and not on like the Bobber.

Negatives... the tft display is annoyingly low and out of the natural field of view. This results in taking your eyes of the road to look at the information displayed which is less than ideal. Iím also not keen on the look of the bike directly head on but the moment you take a step to the side it looks great again. Looking down on the tank whilst in the seat is on the whole very uninspiring... the tank just looks huge and out of place. Finally the quality of the fit and finish just isnít a patch on the Bobber or any of the new area of Triumphís.

Verdict... none of these things really matter when compared to how it rides. Itís far more comfy, capable of being loaded up and touring, sounds great, rides great and is remarkably fast. But is it good enough for me to get ride of the Bobber, Iíd say no... but would it be a worthy addition to the garage... watch this space!

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Thanks for the review.
The Diavel is a very unique bike; both stunning to look & ride. Quite honestly I can think of few people who wouldnít want one in their garage. Even my wife said that should I ever want a one again, I have her permission.
Itís also very well suited to bigger/taller riders.
Despite having a pillion seat, I never once took my wife on it.
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One word: Desmodromic

Out of every bike I've ever owned, I appreciate Ducati's desmodromic valve actuated engines more than any others. Not even the beautifully engineered Rotax mill in my BMW F800 compared in terms of engineering appreciation.

Not saying that the latest titanium valve springs and micron-level tolerances of today's high-end motorcycle engines aren't engineering porn... I'm just saying that developing desmodromic technology at the performance level currently pumped out in Ducati's mass produced engines is unprecedented, and akin to Jenna Jameson Vs. Nina Hartley. Yeah, crude comparison, but meaningful concept articulation requires broad vocabulary bandwidth, and the forum text filters are challenging to work with.
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Personally, I liked Jenna Jameson before all her “desmodromic” work

She’s pretty much unrecognizable nowadays !
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Oh no, that sounds like the new bike itch! I've had the irrational itch while waiting for my bobber's custom work to be done. Good luck, and worse case, you wind up with a fun new toy.
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It’s a **** of a bike that’s for sure... but strangely it’s not the performance of the bike that’s left with me, although that side of things is undeniable. It’s actually the level of comfort it offers by way of comparison to the Bobber.

If I had to pick a bike to park outside of a coffee shop whilst I sat there with my drink, ogling at it... it would hands down be the Bobber. But if I had to pick a bike to never look at, but to have to ride as my only bike... I think the Diavel would have to be my choice. Again not because it’s faster and handles better, because the Bobber is fast enough and engaging enough for my needs... but because the Diavel is just so much easier to cover miles comfortably with, and touring is something I really do fancy doing next year!

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Itís a **** of a bike thatís for sure... but strangely itís not the performance of the bike thatís left with me, although that side of things is undeniable. Itís actually the level of comfort it offers by way of comparison to the Bobber.

If I had to pick a bike to park outside of a coffee shop whilst I sat there with my drink, ogling at it... it would hands down be the Bobber. But if I had to pick a bike to never look at, but to have to ride as my only bike... I think the Diavel would have to be my choice. Again not because itís faster and handles better, because the Bobber is fast enough and engaging enough for me needs... but because Diavel is just so much easier to cover miles comfortably with, and touring is something I really do fancy doing next year!
The bobber has more character, indeed. It's the looker. Also, the bobber is less tempting. What I mean by that is the bobber is less likely to seduce you into situations that are deadly. That's why I'll never again own a "sport" style bike, not even a sport cruiser.

Maybe one day, if I move away from the low country, I'll do a 1200gs Adventure... But my days of thinking... "wonder if I can take that sweeper at 35 degrees" are behind me.

I understand the luring nature of that comfort/performance factor, however.
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Love the Diavel. Wouldnít really want one (and when my wife hears ďDucati ď she sort of goes into meltdown mode). A friend who I occasionally do some multi-day rides with has one. He really likes it (except when it fell on his foot in a parking lot, but thatís another story). He and I used to ride Harleys, he on a V-Rod, me on a Low Rider) but both moved on. I first went to an Indian Scout which I use for trips and now the Bobber. I think the Diavel is amazing but as Rathead says, too tempting. The Diavel-X is more cruiser like with front controls but I think there are other motorcycles that are better for long distance tours.
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The bobber has more character, indeed. It's the looker. Also, the bobber is less tempting. What I mean by that is the bobber is less likely to seduce you into situations that are deadly. That's why I'll never again own a "sport" style bike, not even a sport cruiser.

Maybe one day, if I move away from the low country, I'll do a 1200gs Adventure... But my days of thinking... "wonder if I can take that sweeper at 35 degrees" are behind me.

I understand the luring nature of that comfort/performance factor, however.



Don't think that Adventure Sport doesn't mean you can't get your peg down... Had it a couple of times on my Stelvio...

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Xdiavel S and the Bobber

I own both. TOTALLY different! The Xdiavel is very comfortable to ride. Better suspension very comfortable seat. Belt drive, forward controls that are adjustable. Build quality is thru the roof. To say it is fast is a gross, gross understatement. That said, the Bobber with the Corbin seat and high bars is incredibly comfortable now as well. Plenty of power. I wish for a larger gas tank. I don't think the larger tank is big enough for all the trouble but am still on the fence about that.
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