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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-03-2018, 09:45 AM Thread Starter
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B vs BB vs SM

It might be coincidence but Iíve noticed most of the new forum members are Bobber Black owners, is this a trend?

I read a few months back that Triumph thought the Speedmaster would out sell the Bobber and Bobber Black in North America but from what Iíve heard the Bobber Black seems to be top of the charts worldwide. Does anyone have any idea of which models are selling best?
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It might be coincidence but Iíve noticed most of the new forum members are Bobber Black owners, is this a trend?

I read a few months back that Triumph thought the Speedmaster would out sell the Bobber and Bobber Black in North America but from what Iíve heard the Bobber Black seems to be top of the charts worldwide. Does anyone have any idea of which models are selling best?
MCN paper done a test on the Speedmaster and said it was uncomfortable seat set up. Marketing and test reports dont always tell the truth. Guess Guzzilad will be on here soon and tell a different story to the MCN paper.

The B.Black is sell more because of the extra upgrades to the original. If people had know it was in the pipeline they wouldnt have bought the original.
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The B.Black is sell more because of the extra upgrades to the original. If people had know it was in the pipeline they wouldnt have bought the original.
Iím not sure about that. Yes, with it's better handling, better brakes, L.E.D. headlight, and cruise control for just a tiny bit more it should be a no brainer, but for me and I guess for many of the people who bought the original Bobber itís not, as:

I donít like the Bobber Black's fat front end.
I donít want an LED headlight on a retro.
I donít need cruise control.
I donít want a totally blacked out bike.

Better braking and handling are hard to argue with but I think the original Bobberís set up is fine, it out performs my old Harley 48 in every way and if performance was the defining issue I would of bought a new Street Triple for similar money! But maybe youíre right, maybe the combination of the Bobber Black, the Speedmaster, and fashion will kill off Triumph's best selling bike of all time!
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I'm with Bobber-Bomb on that sentiment.

I do like LED headlights (and have one), however not the one Triumph put on the BB.

I think the OG Bobber handles pretty dam respectable for what it is. Yes, the skinny tire can track a bit, but I don't have problems with it and prefer the taller rim.

Better braking always a plus, but I don't really have an issue with the original's one. Yes, a little wooden, but it can stop quickly.

If both were sitting next to each other in the showroom, I'd respect and like the BB, but would drool on the original.
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I'm paying £800 for my first yearly service - all black engine parts because i'm a lazy ******* and cant keep up with the washing demands of bare sodding low grade ally crap that's installed (I commute daily regardless of weather unless there is ice on my side street that's never gritted)

However as much as I cuss the Bobber's braking, I don't want dual front disks and a fat front tyre I love the open hub on one side, kind of like a reverse single sided swing arm view (almost), I like the way the original grounds out on command going round corners or just misses grounding with a little twitch on the seat (though I don't know if the black does that as well with the fatter front end).

Oh and my Bobber is mine and it's the 3rd bike in 30 years I really want to keep hold of (the other 2 are the CBX1000 i stupidly got rid of and the 955 Triple i wan even more stupid to let go for a pittance when i bouth my T800 5 or 6 years ago).

MY Bobber is a keeper! I can ride it without too much back pain, my hands don't go numb and it pi$$es off my neighbours, who could want more

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?

My reasons for the SM are:

Needed feet forward to allow my left knee to be comfortable post last year's op...
Wife rides pillion...
Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50).

As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...

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Interesting that I think I'm the only active Speedmaster owner?

My reasons for the SM are:

Needed feet forward to allow my left knee to be comfortable post last year's op...
Wife rides pillion...
Only feet forward bikes in UK are SM, HD (not so long as I have a hole in my a*se), and Indian (too expensive for the spec I needed). No Jap "customs" are imported...

I'm amazed I haven't seen any on the roads... It's a superb handling bike with phenomenal fuel consumption (calculated fill to fill of 70.9 miles per UK gallon- best since my pushrod Honda 50).

As to comfort, I can ride two hours until I need a walk around which is better than my Stelvio with Airhawk. I guess derriere's are individual...
So the MCN test report on the comfort of the seat was not "general" then, good.
You can put the FWD pegs on the Bobber if you want..but your stuffed for taking the wife out. (get her to buy a bobber )

Seems the sighting of another bobber is rare as a Dodo..but a SM is like Hens Teeth.

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So the MCN test report on the comfort of the seat was not "general" then, good.
You can put the FWD pegs on the Bobber if you want..but your stuffed for taking the wife out. (get her to buy a bobber )

Seems the sighting of another bobber is rare as a Dodo..but a SM is like Hens Teeth.
Hen's Teeth equals, none existent?

Only hen I know is Speckled Hen....
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I'm paying £800 for my first yearly service - all black engine parts because i'm a lazy ******* and cant keep up with the washing demands of bare sodding low grade ally crap that's installed (I commute daily regardless of weather unless there is ice on my side street that's never gritted)

However as much as I cuss the Bobber's braking, I don't want dual front disks and a fat front tyre I love the open hub on one side, kind of like a reverse single sided swing arm view (almost), I like the way the original grounds out on command going round corners or just misses grounding with a little twitch on the seat (though I don't know if the black does that as well with the fatter front end).

Oh and my Bobber is mine and it's the 3rd bike in 30 years I really want to keep hold of (the other 2 are the CBX1000 i stupidly got rid of and the 955 Triple i wan even more stupid to let go for a pittance when i bouth my T800 5 or 6 years ago).

MY Bobber is a keeper! I can ride it without too much back pain, my hands don't go numb and it pi$$es off my neighbours, who could want more
Ethariel:

What vintage is your CBX? Mine is '79 red.

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Hen's Teeth equals, none existent?

Only hen I know is Speckled Hen....
Hen`s Teeth...not on this planet yet.
Speckled Hen...yes i like that too.
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